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The War on Christmas

Does the War on Christmas really exist? Last year a bunch of conservative radio wackos made the claim that a Jewish conspiracy to secularize christmas existed(as if it isn't already secular enough). Christians nation wide refused to shop in stores which said "happy holidays" instead of "merry christmas".

I was up late last night with a Muslim brother talking about Christmas and I found myself wondering where the War on Christmas was this year. He and I began to discuss, fancifully, a Judeo-Muslim movement that advocated conservative Muslim and Jewish values, although we included Jehovah's Witnesses in the fantasy. A kind of solidarity of strict monotheists.

So I guess my questions is... To your knowledge, does the War on Christmas exist? And secondly, do you think such an organization is possible?


There's no such thing as a "War on Christmas" ... it's antisemitic propaganda.
I was kinda hoping it really existed... I think christmas is a harmful tradition... or at least it has become one. Moral falls, suicide rates rise... and the only beneficiary seems to be the economy.

btw... your icon is really disturbing... what is that?
My icon is a woman crying blood.

Anyway, about the increased suicide rate thingy... that may not be a result of Christmas itself but rather winter in general, there's a condition called SAD (Seasonal something disorder?) where people get depressed in winter because of the decreased amount of sunlight.

Though I've never cared much for Christmas myself and I dunno, there might be something about the holiday that's not too good...
Oh it's alive and kicking. We discussed it at our last general meeting. We also revised the Protocols of Zion charter.

(That was sarcasm. If anyone is to blame for the secularization of xmas, it's American consumerism.)
Seems to me that the only people who can have an effect on how Christmas is celebrated is the people who celebrate it, ie Christians. I think the generalization of it comes from their idea that everyone should celebrate it, so they tried to make the trappings seem more inclusive by downplaying the Jesus related aspects. There is also the trend over the last couple of generations of people becoming less religiously observant but holding on to the family-tradition aspects, which is what probably led to the the secularization of Christmas.
As for Jews or anyone else "taking over" Christmas, why would we? We have our own holidays and don't need it. I think it's less a matter of wanting to change Christmas, and more a matter of not wanting to be forced to participate.
(I hope that didn't get too off topic.)

February 2009

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